There is no they
One of the things that living in a very small town where a significant part of the population is people who have recently moved away from a big city throws into stark contrast is how differently small town folks and big city people use third-person plural pronouns. If you park on the street in a big city, and there’s a flag on a pole in the sidewalk that’s so big it drapes down onto your car (yeah, I know, y’all don’t actually fly the flag on the sidewalk, but bear with me), you’re likely to say to someone “What the hell were they thinking, getting such big flags? That was stupid of them, and they should fix it.” In a small town, if you don’t already know the story, you’re much more likely to ask “Do you know how we ended up with such big flags?”, since the answer is probably that the Special Olympics boosters bought them to sell for a fundraiser, but the company sent the wrong size, and refused to take them back or give a refund, and the mayor, whose son is a Special Olympics participant and whose cousin heads the boosters, bought them for the city so the whole project wouldn’t go under, and it’s a good thing you asked rather than accusing, since you’re talking to the mayor’s sister-in-law.
The world of weblogs isn’t a big city.
If you throw in a random snark about “How the hell would you write a parser for this?” (oops, what I meant was “How the hell would you write an app to deal with this?”) in a link to a FOAF article, then the next morning when Dan Brickley searches Feedster for “foaf”, there you are, insulting his best efforts. Throw off some random comment about AmphetaDesk, and Morbus appears out of thin air. Say “Blogger sux, everyone’s going to quit using it, and the devs are all going to burn in Hell for all eternity” (as someone does twice a second or so); well, Ev does read a blog or two, even at random. Although I don’t actually know of any Microsoft employees who work on IE and read blogs, the odds aren’t quite infinitely small that they exist, and if they do, they must have a miserable time of it: Google only has 16 results for IE sucks from me (not all actually saying that), but then every now and then I remember to watch my mouth. Lots of people don’t, ever.
It’s fun to blow of steam by slamming whatever has recently annoyed you, but even Microsoft is actually made up of real human beings, mostly doing the best they can while stuck between a rock, a hard place, and a manager or two with very different goals than yours. While it feels like “IE sucks goats, and nobody should ever use it” is more likely to get noticed than “the IE CSS bug that messes up scrolling makes it really hard to do CSS layout”, the fact is that the first will just get you ignored by anyone who can actually do anything about it, while the second, turning up in someone’s Feedster search for “IE CSS bug”, has a chance (however small) of being heard.
Hear hear.
Michael Winser of http://michaelw.net/ is on the IE/Windows team (I think) and commented on my blog back in January.
Should have said IE/Win, shouldn’t I? Since of course I know of Tantek.
IE sucks goats and nobody should ever use it.
Whoops, that was me. So much for being deliriously funny. More just, delirious.
Didn’t you mean ”nobody in my household who’s prone to installing spyware should use it” ;)
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea culpa.
I’ve corrected the original entry, of course, but evidence of my idiocy will live forever in the trackbacks. <sigh>
Any chance of you taking pity on me and editing the trackback, so that your faithful readers don’t all hate me? :)
’Tis done. I really don’t mind being confused with Ben, unless the subject is advertising techniques in RSS feeds, or interpretation of the RSS 1.0 annotation module.
Poor goats.
[Reposted with permission from an email to Sam, Liz, and I — Phil]
Hi–
With all due respect to all of you, the world of weblogs *is* a big city. Pretty close to a million people now, and growing very very fast. So it’s
just not the case that everyone knows everyone else.
The world of people who maintain weblogs about weblogging is fairly small, but that’s a different story. And the world of people who follow any
particular weblog (as, e.g., one set up for a class) is smaller yet.
But in any case, the usual issues of due process, faction, and stratification which go along with any world apply here too; in the big world of weblogging, and in the smaller world of weblogging about weblogging. I really don’t have to point to the disputes about RSS standards which have been so painfully worked through in the last few months.
Small communities (all of them) are wonderful in some ways, but it’s really hard to get impartial justice in them. Big communities (all of them) are
wonderful in some ways, but it’s really hard to get help that fits your local needs very well.
And one of the least attractive things about big communities happens when the folks who live in the very best part of town start thinking that what
happens on their street is everything there is.
So, as I say, with all respect, two cheers for an inclusive big tent.
Microsoft is well aware of blogs; Windows Media Player even has a ”Blogging plug-in”.
A great piece. Once in a while we say something we regret in email or chat. So thinking a bit before posting is a great idea. Especially when we are annoyed.
In response to the ”almost a million people” comment above, LiveJournal alone has over 500,000 active users. I hesitate to think how many DiaryLand has…
Excellent piece, by the way.
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There is no they
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